Can One Seek God?
I love this little cabin you have. There is such quietness in here. Every time I have been here the same feeling is here. It was like this at your other place too.
What was sir?
This feeling I have!
Well maybe you are making it up; sorry but doesn’t the feeling exist in you sir?
Well it does but the cabin is creating it too!
Sir, the cabin is a dead thing! Perhaps you are giving it life as we do to move the light off us. Or is the comment on the quality of the cabin, that it is well made and put together by a skilled carpenter?
Okay, I guess that is a better way of putting it.
So what have you come to talk about?
As you know, my search for God tires me out.
Then why search?
Because I must!
Yes sir many people are ambitious for God, money, enlightenment, sex, stocks, bonds, a bigger house… It is all the same really isn’t it?
With all respect, I don’t think so! To search for God is something I do that doesn’t benefit me. It is a selfless thing to do.
Sir, sorry that is the most arrogant thing to say.
Why is that?
Your search for God means what sir?
I think it is plain enough to see, the love of God, whatever you want to call it.
Yes, so you are seeking something. Right sir? How do you describe the thing you are searching for?
Well, I call it peace then! You can’t argue with that can you? When I leave you, I feel more peaceful.
Sorry sir. That is not my intention.
You mean you don’t want people to be more about peace? Are they not coming to you for help?
Yes sir they are and I don’t help them.
Then what do you do?
Together we break illusions that we are caught in.
Okay so you seek to break illusions.
No sir! You either break them or live in them. If you are caught in a trap you must understand the trap you’re in otherwise you fall into that trap again, in a different form.
So what is the trap you think I am in?
The seeking for God.
So seeking is a trap?
Well it must be!
And how is that?
What is God to you? Or your picture of truth then.
Okay, what is yours? Why should I tell you mine and you poke holes in it? You may have a better picture of God than I do. It may be more refined than mine.
That is my point! Whatever picture I have of God, is it not put together by myself, my self-centered thinking?
So then you don’t have a picture of God then?
Sir it is not the point to have or not have. Look at the facts. Anyone’s picture of God or any picture or image thought puts together is limited because it is not real – it is cultivated by one’s thinking, and all thinking is egocentric in these matters.
I still don’t get it. You are telling me as a minister to not have an image of god. That’s absurd!!
What is the point of the image or any image?
To know what to look for!
So the image you have is the correct image?
For me it is!
That’s the whole point – is that not what everyone is doing? They think the image they have is the correct one, the superior one. No one ever says, “I have the incorrect image of God and he over there, they are more correct than I but I want to believe in the incorrect image”!
I get your point. Every time we get together I feel like my mind is being sliced in two. You are always the teacher and me the student. I would like to teach you something for a change. After all, I am the minister!
Sir, in our discussion I am learning.
Well it doesn’t seem like it.
That is just another image. If I am not putting these questions to myself then we are not questioning together.
It doesn’t seem like that!
To keep the brain in a state of learning one must be aware of the relationship and lack of relationship, which is a continuous process. Therefore there is no need to seek.
Well, isn’t that then seeking to be aware?
No sir. Learning is in the present. Seeking is the past. The thing sought is a picture put together by the past. If you think of building a house or you actually do the building. It is too different things.
Yes I see. Doing the building means so much more. And you are saying in that process experience and thinking have to work together.
Yes partly. Sir the human brain is always chasing or seeking something. It is a superficial movement going on in the brain and one of the sources of our disorder.
To seek is disorder.
Yes sir. Whatever picture or image you create about God, it is a self-projected image or one’s self according to one’s self. Therefore the self will make God in our image, and we are willing to kill and hurt others to protect our image.
Well that’s for sure. So why does our mind do this seeking?
Seeking is one of our deepest conditionings. The mind is always chasing something. It thinks that through improving itself, by reading, yoga, and meditation systems, it can reach God, truth or something beyond. To find what is beyond thought you can’t use thought to find it. It can’t be found. Maybe the ending of all this seeking is the birth of something else. In the ashes of thought perhaps the phoenix rises.
Thank you for seeing me. I enjoy our discussion yet I do fear them. I hope someday to come to Friday night group. It is rather far away for me.
You can always stay over sir!
Thanks. Sometime then!
Coach Bri